

(Wedgwood made decorative basaltware for the general English market as well as simpler versions for the Quakers, especially in America). His designs are inspired by the black basaltware that Josiah Wedgwood made for the Quakers in the 18th century. JCT: James’ ceramic works, which he calls Lapsed Quaker Ware, are a passion project that grew out of his Quaker upbringing. I am interested to know more about his ceramic practice! Especially the Lapsed Quaker Ware that the museum also intends to display. RK: James Turrell is most known for his light-based installation works. Once Around, Violet (Shallow Space), Collection of Tallulah Anderson Image: Florian Holzherr, Courtesy of James Turrell We ultimately raised the funds, and James delivered on that promise of 1987. By building a Skyspace, our retrospective would become complete (seven decades, and all 11 of his major categories of work). We continued to raise the funds, letting supporters know that except for a Skyspace, the MASS MoCA exhibition of Turrell contained one work from every decade, and one example of work from every major category. The irony, of course, was that Into the Light did not include the Skyspace (which we could not afford within our Phase III, Building 6 expansion budget). That led to a long friendship, which ended in the Building 6 Into the Light exhibition. He said to me, somewhat jokingly, "Well, if you ever pull off this idea, I'll turn that tank into a Skyspace”. Joseph C Thompson (JCT): On a site tour, 12 years prior to our opening, and well before the museum was funded, James spotted an abandoned cylindrical concrete water tank. Please tell us about this incidence and how this forthcoming installation is aimed at realising this aspiration of the artist? Rahul Kumar (RK): There is a reference of “a vision Turrell had when he visited the MASS MoCA campus in 1987”. In an exclusive interview with STIR, Thompson talks about the forthcoming installation of Skyspace by James Turrell and a promise made to him in 1987!

Within Without interior Image: John Gollings, Courtesy of James Turrell
